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Okay, so the whole cheese sandwich debate: at the risk of sounding heartless, are you kidding me?  

A) That is exactly what I ate as a child, because that is what my mother packed for me, because the oily, greasy, fatty, nasty "hot lunches" horrified me as a child and I was a picky eater. 

ETA with an Ai) - It was also what I ate because school lunch was grossly overpriced when compared to the home-made kind.  I may be coming from a relative place of privilege, but not the kind that I may have initially inadvertently indicated.  I am not providing a variant on let them eat cake cheese sandwiches!

B) That is better than what I eat now, when I pack my own lunch, and generally forget to include either the fruit or the nutritious beverage.

C) Still no scurvy.

I vote we cancel out the shame of the "poor kid" lunch by just providing everyone with a tasty cheese sandwich, and move on.  Good lord - there are teachers selling advertising space on their quizzes to fund book purchases out there, and we're criticizing the schools for effectively feeding everybody?  They succeed in their social function ... if not their educational function. 

In short: shut it, fellow liberals; you're making the rest of us look, if not bad, then at least damned silly. 

An ETA to an initially flippant post, because I don't want to give the wrong impression with this: I am not saying that our educational system is fine, or that there's nothing to worry about, or that this is a tempest in a tea-cup.  I'm not saying that a separate-but-equal system of school supplies is acceptable: I'm appalled by the striations that we see between school districts and between the resources that kids receive within individual schools on the basis of socio-economic class. 

I'm saying a school which feeds children on its own dime - not through state monies, not through subsidized lunches provided through the programs for which one has to qualify but from its established and undoubtedly already stretched funds - is to be commended.  I've seen a lot of suppositions that the cheese sandwiches are being provided to "shame" the parents via their children, and barring any actual evidence to support this reading, I'm calling nonsense.  If, practically speaking, the school's options were to keep sinking deeper and deeper into the red with each unpaid-for lunch until they had to take more drastic measures (firing teachers? canceling book orders? fill-in-the-blank with your own worst-case scenario here, but in my old school district, it wasn't unusual for parents to supply the toilet paper ... and god help us all if they didn't), or to maintain the kids dignity by not giving them "charity food" and, I assume, just letting them quietly gnaw at their own entrails or providing less expensive but still nutritious food for their students, I say Door #3 was the best of a bad lot of options. 

After brouhahas like the national misunderstanding of David Howard's choice of "niggardly" as a budget descriptor, and after the misapprehension concerning intentions in the Oakland Ebonics controversy, after  some people apparently took Jocelyn Elders statement that "perhaps [masturbation] should be taught" as some kind of a "lefties to the left!" edict, I've tended to take even the most well-intentioned of public outcries with a grain of salt.  Consider this my salting of the cheese-sandwich-with-a-side-of-deliberate-shaming, is all. 

Date: 2009-02-27 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d-aulnoy.livejournal.com
And I understand that, because I grew up ... shall we say, unencumbered by wealth? But at the end of the day, that's really not the school's fault, and short of magically finding a very large budget surplus in the couch cushions so as to treat everybody to the repugnant hot lunch, I'm not sure how they could reasonably be expected to mitigate it.

Date: 2009-02-27 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regyt.livejournal.com
Sure, I do understand that. Not many choices when there's a tight budget, and there's always a tight budget with schools. Cheese sandwiches for all sounds like a decent plan, really.

Date: 2009-02-27 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com
You missed the point that it is a deliberate attempt to shame the parents through the kids. It is meant to be punitive and humiliating.

Date: 2009-02-27 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d-aulnoy.livejournal.com
Here's the thing: I don't think I did. I've seen a number of commentators reading it that way, but I think it's a stretch. The sandwiches are provided to children whose parents have not provided food for them. What alternatives do you see - the school not feeding them at all, thus sparing them the shame of the cheese sandwich? Going further into the black and firing a teacher or two to make up the difference? It's a sad commentary on American public policy that we don't feed *all* our children gratis, but given existing circumstances, it looks like administrators are doing the best they can ....

Date: 2009-02-28 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com
It costs more to exclude children from a programme.

Food is bought in bulk, buying two types of food costs more (i organise conferences, I have experienced this, every option you add, costs more in admin).

Those kids have to be tracked from week to week, and even day to day. If they pay today do they get the cheese sandwich or the hot lunch?

if the authorities wanted the money, they could go to court. Instead, they have chosen to humiliate the children.

Date: 2009-02-28 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d-aulnoy.livejournal.com
On organizing, I bow to your greater knowledge hastily and without a qualm - but from what I understood, it wasn't so much "tracking down" as it was a last minute "scanning their card, seeing it was in the red, and handing them a different tray." And, the thought of taking as many parents as it takes to rack up $300,000 of debt in lunch money - at 3 bucks a day, I'll guess less than a hundred bucks each - to court, well, it doesn't sound either cost-effective or even doable. I think one of the sources of frustration behind *all* the reactions is that there doesn't seem to be a solution which is ....

Date: 2009-03-01 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com
You have to estimate how many of those meals you hold. You probably have to buy more hot food than you will serve. The canteens will waste a fair amount of hot food, and quite a few sandwiches.

So, if the sandwich is not cost effective, and it isn't even practical without wasting food, then the only reason left is to punish, and it is punishing kids, not parents.

What if the reason the parent doesn't pay is that they are already neglecting their kid? What if that hot meal was the only hot cooked meal their kid got?

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