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d_aulnoy ([personal profile] d_aulnoy) wrote2006-05-23 12:46 pm

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Last night I found a cowrie shell wedged tightly into a sidewalk crack, just before I had yet another fight about feminism with my best friend.

I used to post about feminism a lot on this journal.  Over the course of the last couple of months I've stopped, though.  Not because I've stopped thinking about feminism, mind you - but because I've spent so much time talking about it, and fighting about it, that writing my thoughts out has become peculiarly exhausting.  It reminds me of how my writer friends say that they never discuss stories before they're finished; it sucks the spirit right out of them when the time comes to put pen to paper.  

This last week, my life has been a) talking and fighting about feminism, and b) writing a paper about witches as inadvertant role models in their roles as testers.

Witches are, generally speaking, not positive figures in fairy tales.  When they're positive figures, we call them fairy godmothers, or white enchantresses, or sorceresses.  "Witch" means villain.  "Witch" means,  kind of selfish.  "Witch" means, disrupting the social order.

But "witch" can also mean helper or tester.  "Witch" can also mean inadvertant role model.

The witch in a fairy tale has always been a fascinating figure to me when she's a recurring character, because, hey, picture being Baba Yaga.  You're out there in your forest with this neverending stream of children and heroes coming to your door, asking for the foal of the Mare of the North Wind, or advice on how to get to the sea that houses the salmon who ate the rabbit who holds the heart of Koschei the Deathless between his teeth, or just for a way to relight the fire that a wicked stepmother put out.  And, once in a while, you get a little frustrated and you bite someone's head off, and all of a sudden everybody's calling you wicked.

It feels a lot like being a feminist, frankly.

Because I get so damned tired of having to be the one to explain that, actually, women do not take being catcalled as a compliment, even if it would be a godsend for a guy.  I get so damned tired of being called oversensitive or humorless because I don't just see the joke, but also the social context that allows for the joke, which, when you think about it, isn't all that funny.  I get tired of being an apologist for my movement, because, hey, while I might not agree with every little tiny bit of feminist thought out there, I think that the basic cause is still worth identifying with, and fighting for.

I get so damned tired, and I've only been doing this for a little while, comparatively speaking. 

But I'm writing a paper about witches, and I found a cowrie shell wedged into a crack on the sidewalk, and it is still worth it.  

I've never set up a girlie filter before, because, well, I don't tend to have all that many barriers, but I think I'm going to set one up for feminism.  You wanna visit me in my little hut in the forest to hear me rant about feminism, comment below.

(Anonymous) 2006-05-23 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
While I could be pissed about that post making me look like a giant asshole, I guess it's fair, today of all days.

[identity profile] d-aulnoy.livejournal.com 2006-05-23 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
How can I say this?

Not. About. You.

Not about any one person. (As the anonymous post could come from any number of people.)

GAH.

(Anonymous) 2006-05-24 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I had an argument with my brother today. Can I just say - I am so tired of explaining why pedofilia is wrong.

Obviously I'm not implying that my brother is a creep. Hell no. Just completely disconnected statements. No connection there. No siree. Shame on you for connecting them.

[identity profile] d-aulnoy.livejournal.com 2006-05-24 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for illustrating WHY I'M SETTING UP A FILTER.

Also, to continue the bad analogy thing: had the same discussion with a thousand other non-creeps? Congratufuckinglations.

[identity profile] vschanoes.livejournal.com 2006-05-24 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what, circehellene? I think it's a fine analogy, and reveals more about your anonymous annoyer than he realizes--pedophilia is wrong and foul. (If I were going to split hairs about it, I'd say that acting on pedophilia is wrong, feeling it is merely unfortunate and rather gross.) And so is anti-feminism.

But more to the point, as you've pointed out before, yet again this person is completely missing the point, which is that the world, and your desire for conversation, does not revolve around him or his gender. Guys would like being catcalled? Who fucking cares? Feminism is not about exploring men's experiences of their sexist behavior--that's called, oh, the fucking norm for the past couple thousand years. Feminism is about putting women's experiences at the center of the discussion. And, by the way, how nice for men, that their experience can be completely hypothetical on so many levels: they do not, by and large, get catcalled, so they can imagine the experience as being complimentary and under their control (only the comments they'd like from the people they'd like); they are not, by and large, several inches shorter and many pounds lighter than the people doing the catcalling, to say nothing of being socialized to avoid fights and confrontation (obviously you're not, CH, but generally our gender is); men are not continually being stalked, harassed, and raped by women, so again, they don't have to worry about that threat. Well, how nice for them. That's male privilege in action right there. And I'm not so sure that in reality they would take it as a compliment--remember those gay-bashing men who try to use the "gay panic" defense to justify beating up and sometimes killing gay men who had the temerity to express their admiration of these men and desire to fuck them? What about all the legitimate, regular ways of paying somebody a compliment? Somehow "Hey, chicky-mama, shake that ass," comes more often than "Excuse me, ma'am? I just wanted to say that you look lovely." And yet, which is more likely to be taken as a compliment?

And this conversation breaks down along similar lines: you write up a post about your experiences feeling drained about having to continually explain and re-explain basics of women's experiences and feminist consciousness, how it relates to your work, and how it makes you feel, and you get the man in question popping up and saying "You're making me look like an asshole." Well, guess what? This conversation is not about you, guy. Also, you, CH, have said almost nothing about the guy in question--you've said that he's a friend, and you've listed the conversations that have made you "tired." Unless you're actually making these conversations up and they never took place, in which case, how could the anonymous friend decide that you're referring to him, he's saying that a simple statement of facts makes him look like an asshole.

Feminism is not about women catering to men's ignorance and privilege ("I'd love it if a bunch of strange, repulsive men twice my size told me to suck their dicks or talked about my boobs--it would be a compliment! It certainly wouldn't remind me of the time my little sister got felt up on the subway, or the several times strange men showed me their penises and/or masturbated in front of me, or the time some guy tried to follow me home, or the times my mother was sexually harrassed, or the time my grandmother was sexually assaulted, or the many friends of mine who've been raped, because, hey, those things never happen to me, so I don't have to think about them and can assume they don't happen to anyone! How nice for me.") It's not about women showing exquisite care and tact in order to make sure that members of the dominant group, men, don't feel bad. It's about putting women's experiences at the center of any discussion about the issue, and analyzing those experiences politically, that is to say, with respect to the differences in power between men and women. And that should make men uncomfortable.

[identity profile] thekathysmom.livejournal.com 2006-05-25 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been reading this for a couple of days and this ones seems to have the idea most closely stated. It is all about power. Just as the voting laws of the deep south were. That kind of male must feel powerful, or his identity is threatened. Giving women power somehow threatens these men.